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Walloth Nesch belt line trim nuts and bolts update.
- Thread starter Bmachine
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How well do the nuts fit on the W&N bolts? It looks like the threads are rolled vs cut on the BMW bolt. That could result in a sloppy fit. I don't suppose it's really critical, but I wouldn't want them to vibrate loose, or start galling while tightening up and freeze onto the bolt threads.There was a discussion a bit over 2 years ago about these infamous trim nuts and bolts. At the time the consensus was that the current batch of W&N bolts were too thick and did not fit in the original trim pieces. The suggestion was then to buy the nuts from W&N and the bolts from Bmw directly.
Exterior moulding bolts
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Because W&N was selling a set (both nuts and bolts) for not much more than the nuts alone, I decided to take a chance and ordered their complete set of 90 pieces last week and they arrived today. I don’t know if they were modified since the time of that original thread, (wouldn’t be surprised if @sfdon ’s towering voice of discontent scared them back to the drawing board) but I am pleased to say that this current batch fits perfectly. They’re a little bit smaller than the originals but apart from that they fit just fine.
New vs originals
Maybe my car is different but I count this:
Rear fender: 9
Door: 5
Front fender: 6
Total for each side: 20. Both sides: 40
Front nose piece: 9
Grand total: 49
Is this a '74 difference maybe?
Rear fender: 9
Door: 5
Front fender: 6
Total for each side: 20. Both sides: 40
Front nose piece: 9
Grand total: 49
Is this a '74 difference maybe?
Not sure, but it is easy to ADD an extra hole+bolt ofcourse.
If you had, say, 48 holes then I'd be really curious.
I'll check on my car tomorrow (except the doors, they are tucked away for another 2 weeks)
Update 15/02/2022:
My car has 38 holes in the body:
- I did not count the doors
- Clearly one hole has been closed by PO, under the c-pillar roundel as it is present on the right, but it is missing on the left. As a result on the left it spans for ~60 cm unsupported.
So total should be 39 on my body +10 on the doors would give me 49 as well. @Bmachine : our cars are alike! This is becoming intriguing.....
My car was build may 1973.
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If you had, say, 48 holes then I'd be really curious.
I'll check on my car tomorrow (except the doors, they are tucked away for another 2 weeks)
Update 15/02/2022:
My car has 38 holes in the body:
- I did not count the doors
- Clearly one hole has been closed by PO, under the c-pillar roundel as it is present on the right, but it is missing on the left. As a result on the left it spans for ~60 cm unsupported.
So total should be 39 on my body +10 on the doors would give me 49 as well. @Bmachine : our cars are alike! This is becoming intriguing.....
My car was build may 1973.
Realoem shows 45...
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I've checked some random images on teh web of various cars in their restoration process. most, but not all of them match the number of holes per panel reported by @Bmachine and my car (49)
(note: BMachine quotes the front fender as having 6; were the fender actually as 7 holes. That is because Bmachine counts the numbers linked to the chrome trim: the front hole on the fender is actually holding the leading front edge trim eventhough it is a hole in the front fender.)
Oldenzaal; 5 on door, 9 on rear panel (8 visible from this angle) = matching to 49 total
oldenzaal-classics.nl
6 on fender, +1 on fender from front trim = matching to 49 total
I did spot one CSL with additional hole in the front corner, still on the front panel: see the mouse pointer? I don't have that hole, but then again i haven't cleaned that corner of my car yet, there is a bunch of filler there in my car. this would however lead to two more holes (one L, one R, giving not 49 but 51 bolt holes!)
Could it be that 4 holes simply have no bolts through them? In designing stuff in our company we do the same sometimes: make sure the holes are in the tooling, later on we'll decide how many are really necessary to use to get a good fitment.
(note: BMachine quotes the front fender as having 6; were the fender actually as 7 holes. That is because Bmachine counts the numbers linked to the chrome trim: the front hole on the fender is actually holding the leading front edge trim eventhough it is a hole in the front fender.)
Oldenzaal; 5 on door, 9 on rear panel (8 visible from this angle) = matching to 49 total
BMW 3.0 CS - Inka - Oldenzaal Classics
View the photo collage of the restored classic car, performed by Oldenzaal Classics
oldenzaal-classics.nl
Westgate Classics BMW CSL E9 - Soda Blasting Limited
Our paint removal services are regularly used by the Westgate Classics team. This BMW CSL was no exception, with both steel and aluminium cleaning to do
www.sodablastingltd.co.uk
I did spot one CSL with additional hole in the front corner, still on the front panel: see the mouse pointer? I don't have that hole, but then again i haven't cleaned that corner of my car yet, there is a bunch of filler there in my car. this would however lead to two more holes (one L, one R, giving not 49 but 51 bolt holes!)
Could it be that 4 holes simply have no bolts through them? In designing stuff in our company we do the same sometimes: make sure the holes are in the tooling, later on we'll decide how many are really necessary to use to get a good fitment.
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NOS panels:
7 front, 14 L+R front fender, 18 L+R rear quarters (+10 for doors) = 49.
front has 7 holes:
Fender panel 7 holes:
rear quarter: 9 holes:
7 front, 14 L+R front fender, 18 L+R rear quarters (+10 for doors) = 49.
front has 7 holes:
Fender panel 7 holes:
rear quarter: 9 holes:
Glad to see our Napa and Sonoma county wines have not destroyed as many of my brain cells as I was fearing...