Wildfire empathy thread...

Newsom actually plans to relax permitting standard at least on the environmental side to speed up reconstruction.
Nothing will change, capitalism rewards risk taking, it is worth a fire risk to live 30 years by the Pacific Ocean as a rich man or a bum, I will take it.
 
Just saw on FB e9 group that Matt Dusig lost his 74 3.0cs in the Palisades fire. Matt and his family are fine.
What’s happening to LA is truly devastating and more winds expected tonight.
Can‘t imagine what people are going through.
The lost coupe:
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Matt posted the burned-out coupe on FB. There were remarks about Hagerty insurance. Let's hope the car was in a garage because that is one of the requirements for getting their stated value policy.
 

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There are reasons that I have heard why they ran out of water:
It has very dry for several months of no rain
Due to high winds the power company cut off power so that if the power lines were downed they wouldn't start fires (this has happened before)
Without electrical power, the water towers weren't being filled (pumped) which is the source of water for the hydrants.
I had heard there were generators enroute to power the water towers
There was a reservoir that was empty due to maintenance
The unsuccessful immediate fire response to the LA fires was caused by an entire system not designed for what occurred. I read a factual response from LA Water and Power to the reports you and many people heard. According to them, all of the mentioned causes except the last one had no effect on the shortage of water for some fire hydrants. Unfortunately, a smaller local reservoir in the Palisades was required to be emptied for repair because its old roof was not watertight causing water quality rules non compliance. There were cross connections to other reservoirs, but the rate of resupply was probably affected
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I have long experience with municipal fire systems. I’m a retired California Civil Engineer whos practice included municipal engineering. I designed water supply improvements for water agencies and coordinating with them on large development expansions as a designer and City Engineer. I also managed the construction of five new fire stations and expansion of seven others to keep up with City growth.

Nationwide sizing criteria for fire protection has never required near the response capability adequate to protect against these almost instant firestorms caused by extreme winds, and tender dry vegetation. Doing so would make almost all development unaffordable. This includes the size of storage tanks, pumping stations, supply pipelines, number of hydrants, air support, number and size of fire stations and fire engines and staffing of them.

Instead of the impossible unaffordable task of rebuilding our entire infrastructure quickly, the most viable solution is to require fire safe construction to a level not yet required and to control vegetation near structures. This includes fireproof roofs, siding and decks, spark proof foundation and eave vents, fire rated windows, fences etc.. Also, most of the older homes in the fire areas did not have fire sprinklers which are now required.

Existing homes in fire hazard areas need to be retrofitted. I don’t have the answer on how to pay for that. I am retrofitting my own cabin in the Sierras, but most residents don’t have the resources to do so. Areas like Altadena consumed by the Eaton Fire are working class, unlike Pacific Palisades.
 
Matt posted the burned-out coupe on FB. There were remarks about Hagerty insurance. Let's hope the car was in a garage because that is one of the requirements for getting their stated value policy.

wow, burn and melt

steel melts quite high temps…

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maybe is the ceiling collapsed

sad,

good that they are well
 
i have added the RIP into the ancestry project - VIN 4310197

previous ownership
2018-2024Matt Dusig (Los Angeles, CA)
2018Blackhawk Collection
2013-2018Mark
2010-2013Phil (Again)
2010Dennis
2003-2010Pat
1993-2003Phil
1974-1993Duane Menefee (Tulare, CA)
 
Matt posted the burned-out coupe on FB. There were remarks about Hagerty insurance. Let's hope the car was in a garage because that is one of the requirements for getting their stated value policy.
Really? If have a total loss while parked or driving we are not fully covered?
 
generally yes it would be covered, if it was just there temporarily. if you store it outside, you are generally outside of the Hagerty coverage. in the midst of a disaster, that is a good question. during hurricane season, Heacock sends out emails telling you to secure your car.
 
Some insurers, don't know about Haghery, require a locked garage. Must the garage be locked at all times?
 
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