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Arde

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Alan,
I have to agree with the starter issue. I can put my car in gear and move it with the starter.
Chuck Norris can put his car in gear and start it with a roundhouse kick.
Chuck Norris can dribble a bowling bowl.
If Chuck Norris misspells a word and write a paragraph in all caps, Oxford changes the spelling and capitalization.

In short, if Logan cannot start the car, call Chuck Norris.
 

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YES I HAVE A GOOD GROUND I HAVE A GROUND FROM THE BLOCK TO THE
FRAME. ILL PULL IT AND CHECK IT ON THE BENCH
ALSO MARCOS WHAT IS A SR 444 ?
ILL GET ONE AND TRY IT
 

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YES I HAVE A GOOD GROUND I HAVE A GROUND FROM THE BLOCK TO THE
FRAME. ILL PULL IT AND CHECK IT ON THE BENCH
ALSO MARCOS WHAT IS A SR 444 ?
ILL GET ONE AND TRY IT


Replacement starter, mentioned here. I haven’t used one. I have an SR-71x.
 

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OK ALL YOU KNOWITALL SFDON, MARKOS ADAWILL-
SO I PULLED THE STARTER .. SO WHAT SHOULD I USE TO REPLACE IT
MARKOS MENTIONED A A SR44 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT
IS THERE A SO CALLED STRONGER ONE MORE AMPS OR SOMETHING
AS I DONT WANT TO DO THIS AGAIN.
THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR INFO
AND WILL IT INDEED TURN OVER THE ENGINE
AS I DONT KNOW WHY MY OEM WONT WORK
WELLL SEE
 

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Sr-440 or Sr-441, or Sr-71x only if it has the smaller case, all have permanent magnets, are smaller and spin faster.
 

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Alan, the sr-444 is the starter from the 850i (v12). its a pretty stout starter. give it a shot ... its not expensive

fcp euro has it for 144 bucks
 

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When you up your engine’s compression ratio and power, OEM starters can be overtaxed and burn out. Here, we look at high-performance starters with the extra cranking power you need. more details on - https://www.carid.com/articles/high-torque-starters-ensure-your-engine-cranks-every-time.html

FYI - The Ferrari F355 has about the same displacement as your motor with a 3.5L V8. The factory compression ratio is 11:1. Ferarri used a run of the mill Denso starter. No high torque unit. Your motor may be special in the e9, but there is nothing novel about 11:1 compression.


You can pick up any one of the BMW starters that @HB Chris mentioned from Autozone or the like. If it doesn’t help you can always return it.

Alternatively, you can buy a $20 ford starter relay. Run the skinny ignition wire that goes to the existing solenoid to the starter relay. Run large gauge wire from your battery to the big post on the relay, and the other big post to the starter solenoid that
originally accepted the skinny wife. That will give your starter solenoid plenty of juice and rule out a weak signal from your ignition switch.

FWIW this isn’t a hair brained idea. I used this well documented method on my MkII jetta to combat hot start issues. After the car was at operating temp it wouldn’t restart. Starter would just click. This was an approach addressed my issues. Personally, I wouldn’t do it in my e9, but it’s another inexpensive diagnostic approach.

Lastly, welding wire makes good inexpensive battery cable. I’m sure I’ve mentioned this before but why not…

 

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WOW THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE HELP
THIS WAY I CAN USE MY EXISTING STARTER - ILL REINSTALL IT IN THE MORN AND ADD A NOTE ON THE OUTCOME
I HAVE A BUNCH OF RELAYS -SO ILL USE ONE OF THOSE.
ALSO I DID USE A SET OF BATTERY CABLES TO RUN FROM THE BATTERY TO THE STARTER AND ENGINE
MY THOUGHT ON THE MONDIAL ALSO

IS THIS THE LAYOUT YOUR SPEAKING OF.
 

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WOW THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE HELP
THIS WAY I CAN USE MY EXISTING STARTER - ILL REINSTALL IT IN THE MORN AND ADD A NOTE ON THE OUTCOME
I HAVE A BUNCH OF RELAYS -SO ILL USE ONE OF THOSE.
ALSO I DID USE A SET OF BATTERY CABLES TO RUN FROM THE BATTERY TO THE STARTER AND ENGINE
MY THOUGHT ON THE MONDIAL ALSO

IS THIS THE LAYOUT YOUR SPEAKING OF.

Use an actual ford starter relay. They are $20 or less at autozone. Not your average relay.
 

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AFTER A BIT OF THOUGHT A SOLINOID WONT HELP AS I SHORTED THE
STARTER WITH A SCREWDRIVER DIRECTAND IT STILL JUSTCLICKED.
 
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