Actually, they call them "3-piece" because of the hub cover... Silly, but yeah... 2-piece wheel, and a hub cover that finalizes the spokes.
I had the same thought back when I got them...
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I had the same thought back when I got them...
Ah, one piece is the tire, another is the rim, and the third is the hub caps?
8-piece counting the lug nuts.
Glad to see Scott you are gathering the parts to jump start a great project!
Hah!! Actually on Style 5's the rim is separate from the spoked hub. And then they have the silly hub cap... so not counting the tire, but including the lug nuts it IS 8 pieces!!
OK, so I am finally getting the stars aligned to get this project underway. As noted above, I have stored these cars (1980 635, 1972 Bronco and 1972 3.0 CS) in a converted chicken barn for about 15 years. I have been actively collecting parts for the E9 for the last 18 months or so. The missing piece was place to do the work. My home garage is used for other purposes, and does not have room, and the chicken barn was not a great place to work (on someone else's home property, no water, no bathroom, etc. ).
I finally located an industrial work space in town (conveniently, right around the corner from my athletic club!), and have been setting that up to get the E9 restoration, and the 635 refresh underway. Currently cleaning up the floors, and setting up shelving and work benches. Moving the cars, tools , etc. next week. Probably going to install a compressor and a vapor honing unit this winter..
Hope to start dismantling the E9 this winter and get her ready for paint by summer.
Really looking forward to having a large enough space to catalog and store all the parts while I am working on the body.
I am seriously looking at sending the engine to Korman for a rebuild and the triple Weber conversion...
I finally located an industrial work space in town (conveniently, right around the corner from my athletic club!), and have been setting that up to get the E9 restoration, and the 635 refresh underway. Currently cleaning up the floors, and setting up shelving and work benches. Moving the cars, tools , etc. next week. Probably going to install a compressor and a vapor honing unit this winter..
Hope to start dismantling the E9 this winter and get her ready for paint by summer.
Really looking forward to having a large enough space to catalog and store all the parts while I am working on the body.
I am seriously looking at sending the engine to Korman for a rebuild and the triple Weber conversion...
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OK, progress!! I went to the barn today and changed the four flat tire 14" wheels for my new 16" Alpina replicas.
Changed the battery and turned over the engine for a bit to get some oil circulating, then sprayed some starting fluid into the carbs, and cranked it for about 15-20 seconds and she fired up!
Been a while since I have heard her run! The exhaust is clearly shot, but she revs and drives fine. I was, frankly, not expecting her to just start without some serious coaxing!
She is VERY dusty!! The trim bits are in the car...and the rocker covers are off for inspecting any rust. So far only some minor rust around the right rear rocker...
Next step is to move her to the new shop, and then do some serious rust inspection... I'll keep y'all posted!
Changed the battery and turned over the engine for a bit to get some oil circulating, then sprayed some starting fluid into the carbs, and cranked it for about 15-20 seconds and she fired up!
Been a while since I have heard her run! The exhaust is clearly shot, but she revs and drives fine. I was, frankly, not expecting her to just start without some serious coaxing!
She is VERY dusty!! The trim bits are in the car...and the rocker covers are off for inspecting any rust. So far only some minor rust around the right rear rocker...
Next step is to move her to the new shop, and then do some serious rust inspection... I'll keep y'all posted!
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One thing I noticed after getting into the front seat, and that being 6'2" I sm either going to need to move the seat rails back, or get some longer rails. I assume this is not a new issue!
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depends on which way you are built - long legs or long torso. @HB Chris is much taller than either of us and @Stevehose is too. i'm 6-3, but long torso ... so no issue on the leg room. many people put thick washers above the seat tracks to tilt the seat back more and increase the physical leg room. there is another issue with pushing the seat back further and that is reaching the steering wheel. i have a '74 steering column so it telescopes ... which is helpful.
i have no idea if longer rails are available or even possible. i have scheel seats so i use mounting plates ... the same is true with recaros and that can make moving the seat back a little easier.
i have no idea if longer rails are available or even possible. i have scheel seats so i use mounting plates ... the same is true with recaros and that can make moving the seat back a little easier.
For me it just feels a bit cramped. Not difficult to get into or to drive, but an inch or two would make for a more relaxed driving position. I'll either try to find some longer rails (maybe from an E-12 or something)., or simply look at re-drilling the rails and moving them back bit. Step 900 in this project, and I am at step 1...
As Scott has said, I have a 36" inseam and by raising the front of the seat 25mm I find I have much more room. The retractor keeps the slider from moving back any more and moving it is not a simple task. I also have a 40cm Petri.
mkekiddoc
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Scott, You mentioned sending your engine to Korman for a performance rebuild. Please post your experience with them here, if it proceeds that direction. Looking at performance options for my coupe, as well.....
if you are referring to me, i had a korman 2002 that was built in the 90s. if i was you, i would contact Don Lawrence @sfdon ... he is the closest great e9 engine builder. your best options IMHO around the country are Don, Mario + Carl ... after that maybe Metric Mechanic + Korman. i would definitely start with those guys, they have proven history.
70sRescueGuy
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@scottandrews…does that e9 guy CoupeKing compare to others @rsporsche just shared/listed - Don, Mario L in N H , Carl N of La Jolla Indep. , and Korman in NC……theres also high end awesome guy here in Westchester NY (he mostly does the vintage Italians - ferrari, Lambo, Maseratis, but also does e9s including a csl previously) sincere good luck ! slow, methodical Doing it Right yields very best Outcomes…..what I’m doing now with my various projects (73-2002 baur, 82e23-745, 69e3-2800, and one of very last 76-2002s in MintGruen)…thomas in NY area
In response to both @70sRescueGuy and @mkekiddoc: Yeah, after some discussion with @Stevehose, I think I am going to focus the money on the body an interior. I have rebuilt numerous engines over the past 50 or so years, and I think with the advice of some of the group members here, especially for sourcing, I can manage rebuilding the M30. I already did my M90, so this is really just more of the same, with a bit deeper reach into the engine.
There’s a lot you could do yourself as long as you have a good machine shop. It might be worth having someone do the head. If I were doing mine over I would look into having someone port the head.
Yeah, any machine work I'll shop out. Block cleaning and honing, valves, porting, etc.. I can assess and assemble the engine myself.
With wonderful advice from @Stevehose i sourced a matched set of three Weber 40 DCOE carbs. Also located some nice Scheel 401s that I will have re-covered…so this project is slowly taking shape!
Was in Austin visiting the kids and attending the USGP. Heading home tomorrow, and plan to move the E9 to my new shop Saturday. Once there, I can really start disassembling the car and will have a better idea of the body work needed. Exterior is remarkably straight (no visible damage anywhere) so I am cautiously optimistic!
Was in Austin visiting the kids and attending the USGP. Heading home tomorrow, and plan to move the E9 to my new shop Saturday. Once there, I can really start disassembling the car and will have a better idea of the body work needed. Exterior is remarkably straight (no visible damage anywhere) so I am cautiously optimistic!
Dulcinea in my new shop. Disassembly starts next week!
Looks like a great space Scott!
go to Home Depot, Lowes or Costco and buy a bunch of the black plastic boxes with yellow lids and organize the parts into boxes as you take them off. take tons of pictures. i would also write a list of things you put into the boxes. you can organize the boxes how ever you see fit, but i suggest organization like exterior trim, interior trim, doors + windows, trunk, hood, brakes, lights, etc. then, when you buy new stuff, you put the new parts into the same organization.
i also recommend that you create bags that work with the orange book / real oem pages for all new bolts, nuts, washers + screws - keep the old ones and match the new ones as you replace them.
i also recommend that you create bags that work with the orange book / real oem pages for all new bolts, nuts, washers + screws - keep the old ones and match the new ones as you replace them.
Excellent idea. I have been putting up shelves that hold various plastic bins. I think I'll make list templates for them soI can catalog what goes in the bin.
I recall when I did my first restoration I misplaced one of the headliner hoops. Took me months to find one to finish the interior. Months after that, I found the missing hoop. I still have it as a reminder to catalog the stuff that comes off the car, lest you lose track of it...