Tariffs

Talked to a tennis partner friend today. She does high end placement. Her business is dead. Vs last year when she won a week in Bermuda, and the company treated her and her husband to four days in Las Vegas. This year it will be Wildwood and Atlantic city on the Jersey shore. Out of pocket of course.
Steve, +100 thumbs up on the mixed doubles tennis. I'm a big tennis player. Luckily our indoor club in CD'A managed to keep 4 courts and not turn them ALL into pickleball courts like they did with the other courts (turned them all into Pickleball). Not against Pickleball, but until I can't play semi-competitive tennis anymore I will keep playing tennis and MAYBE pick up pickleball or golf later in life. I played mixed for a while in Dana Point but man, couldn't take the constant lobbing with the women (and I love women, don't get me wrong). Drove me nuts, and that was when I was a 4.0 player. Now a solid 3.5 but at least the pace is still there with the Men's Doubles.

What were we talking about again? Oh politics....I'll stick to the tennis comments or piss more people off...you guys! So much I'd like to say but will refrain. Not worth it anymore. I'll stick to tennis and vintage BWW's.

"Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time...I think I have forgotten this already before" - Steven Wright
 
I beleive people are still buying tyres from us in the States and they are not having tariffs applied to them.

 
Dougal, not at least as part of your billing, but in all likelihood they have had to pay it to the freight company. hopefully if the trade agreement goes through between the USA + UK this won't be much of an issue, but may still be 10% more. curious if you get any feedback from purchasers whether they have to or not.
 
Dougal, not at least as part of your billing, but in all likelihood they have had to pay it to the freight company. hopefully if the trade agreement goes through between the USA + UK this won't be much of an issue, but may still be 10% more. curious if you get any feedback from purchasers whether they have to or not.
When I started this thread (for some reason my original post has disappeared), I noted that buying from W-N the shipping and price did not have any tariff. However, I got a bill form UPS for 25% of the customs declared value, and had to pay that before they delivered the parts.

So CLEARLY in this instance the buyer pays the tariff. I am sure for other more wholesale shipments, the US side distributor receiving the shipment pays the tariff, and then passes some or all of that down the chain.
 
I beleive people are still buying tyres from us in the States and they are not having tariffs applied to them.

Interesting. Deliveries under 800 dollars from China are still getting through unaffected for a business I know.
Looks like the enforcement is arbitrary.
 
I beleive people are still buying tyres from us in the States and they are not having tariffs applied to them.

Perhaps, but the problem is that a US customer who orders these tires won't know for certain that they will be delivered without the tariff until they are delivered without the tariff. I would think that would be uncommon (primarily because the shipping company would be foolish to take the chance that they can avoid being billed for uncollected tariffs retroactively). I suspect ScottAndrews' situation is far more likely, where the shipping company won't deliver until they collect the tariff even where this was not mentioned by the seller at the time of sale.
 
Perhaps, but the problem is that a US customer who orders these tires won't know for certain that they will be delivered without the tariff until they are delivered without the tariff. I would think that would be uncommon (primarily because the shipping company would be foolish to take the chance that they can avoid being billed for uncollected tariffs retroactively). I suspect ScottAndrews' situation is far more likely, where the shipping company won't deliver until they collect the tariff even where this was not mentioned by the seller at the time of sale.
perhaps this is where a smart seller would say for US customers, the tires are 100 gbp each and the shipping is 115 gbp each
 
Ah, that sounds right, and remembers me about another big false step taken closer to us not so long ago
Brexit? Yes that has not turned out to be the economic miracle that some predicted. Actually, a £2.7 tn decision which is a reminder to not shoot yourself in the foot when that foot is in your mouth.
 
Dougal, not at least as part of your billing, but in all likelihood they have had to pay it to the freight company. hopefully if the trade agreement goes through between the USA + UK this won't be much of an issue, but may still be 10% more. curious if you get any feedback from purchasers whether they have to or not.

The comments i have had are from other forums where we have bween shipping tyres out and there have been no tariffs.

i have been posting trying to develop a buying frenzy before the tariffs are in place, encouraging people to buy now before they are in place.

JHowever the truth is who knows what is going to happen tomorrow? so for now it seems to be OK, and my interpretation was that back at the beginning of April it was decided not to make a decision immediately and they saidf they would re group in 3 months. But no garuntees.

if you are in the States i recomend just buying these tyres from Lucas now. if you contact him and buy them you know what price he quotes and that should be set in stone. and the tyres he currently has have not had a tariff applied to them. however what we also know is the next container of tyres he buys could well have a heft tariff applied to them, which of course he will have to recoupe by putting the prices up. so grab them while you can. they will not become cheaper.

 
Moderator, I have a suggestion. Please delete this entire thread like you did the Covid one before I say stuff that will get me kicked off here. If what Scott and Dougal just said isn't 100% political and testy then I don't know what is? Back to the coupe talk fellas. There are already other very smart and talented commentators on here that are not commenting anymore because of stuff like this.
 
Moderator, I have a suggestion. Please delete this entire thread like you did the Covid one before I say stuff that will get me kicked off here. If what Scott and Dougal just said isn't 100% political and testy then I don't know what is? Back to the coupe talk fellas. There are already other very smart and talented commentators on here that are not commenting anymore because of stuff like this.

I personally hope the thread sticks around. Even though I don't own an E9 at the moment, this has been a useful bit of content as I've been importing parts for my 964 over the past 18 months and trying to time and price UK and German markets. Even if the comments wander into highly adjacent political perspectives, this thread has been relevant and helpful for a number of practical "what and when" tariff topics. I'l gladly listen to the "why" comments at the same time.
 
guys, i'm with @Nachtycoupe here ... we have started to cross the line. i am going to leave it, but ... a couple of posts are going to be deleted. i think this is a good thread as LONG as we keep the political comments out of it.
 
Moderator, I have a suggestion. Please delete this entire thread like you did the Covid one before I say stuff that will get me kicked off here. If what Scott and Dougal just said isn't 100% political and testy then I don't know what is? Back to the coupe talk fellas. There are already other very smart and talented commentators on here that are not commenting anymore because of stuff like this.

Hi Natchtycoupe and rsporsche.

You are absolutley right. It was a slip.

I think this is a interesting topic, but at the same time tricky to not accidentally get political, which i definately did.

well said. Apologies

Dougal
 
Perhaps both suggestions are sound. I have learned interesting facts and perspectives, yet the thread has little searchable value in the future so removal is fine.
 
I think the discussion about what the effects of the Tariffs are going to be is interesting.

I beleive discussion about when we think they might come into place is interesting.

i think coments from people who are getting stuff shipped in and have not been hit by tariffs is interesting.

However the whys and wherefores of the tariffs is political and discussion for else where, as was my earlier coments. As our freind Natchtycoupe rightly pointed out.
 
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